Defining the Style

topic posted Wed, April 26, 2006 - 4:55 AM by  Dawn
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The "clone" topic has made me think about what styles we are dancing and how we define them. All this talk about "Tribal Fusion" has reopened a question i meant to post here ages ago.

When i started dancing ATS we (Khalgani, our troupe) were initially inspired by Gypsy Caravan. Now, GC "fuse" lots of dance styles into their ATS (American Tribal Style), like indian and spanish stylings an so on. After about five years we found Fat Chance Bellydance, who invented ATS in its "true" form. There has always been discussions on how FCBD's format is true/real/pure ATS and that anything that doesn't follow the format is "fusion"

So we have always considered our dancing to be "Tribal Fusion" as we use both formats and blend our own styles in too. Then in 2004 the BDSS came to town and we saw Rachel and The Indigo dancing "Tribal Fusion 2.0"!

I've heard a story about how Miles wanted to know what Rachel was dancing and thats he said it was Tribal Fusion, as it would be using the definitions above, but now the term seems to be used for only this "style" (wid popping/ticking, costuming, music etc)

So where does that leave the other "Fusionettes"???

When i'm dancing solo, getting jiggy with my own fused tribal/belly/capoeira/tumbling thing I call it "Modern Fusion" as this seems to explain what i'm doing and separate it from the conFusion (!)

I'd be really interested in what other people think about this dual "Fusion" definition. Am i the only one that finds it sometimes confusing?


Also could somebody define Urban Tribal? Surely this is a fusion too? Is it just Urban Tribal Dance Co that are performing it or are there others?

What about other off shoots from ATS/Fusion?
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Dawn
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  • Re: Defining the Style

    Wed, April 26, 2006 - 8:23 AM
    As I have been taught and understand it ATS is a type of improve bellydance that is performed with a group of women dancing and supporting each other as a group, and both GC and FCBD are ATS. I think that the emphasis here is the improvision and cues. Fusion is when one uses choreography and the other moves used in oriental, or cabaret, bellydance moves that are not part of the ATS group of moves. I have even seen dancers that are purely oriental style, but dress in tribal costuming, are also called fusion. I think the difference is the improve and choreography aspects . . .
  • Re: Defining the Style

    Wed, April 26, 2006 - 8:28 AM
    THis thread:

    tribalbellydance.tribe.net/thre...da937

    From the tribal bellydance tribe kinda talks about this, and got quite interesting. I was confused as to whether or not you could say yo were ATS if you had never been to a workshop or class taught be Carolena, as obviously living outside the Uk that's tough for us!

    Lots of good input there from representatives of major tribal troupes.
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      Re: Defining the Style

      Wed, April 26, 2006 - 9:29 AM
      Don't do it man. Beware of definitions...
      • Re: Defining the Style

        Wed, April 26, 2006 - 9:53 AM
        I agree Rachel, but sometimes you’ve got to state the facts in order to educate and encourage growth.

        I teach tribal fusion at a traditional belly dance studio in south Florida. I recently dug up the best explanation I could find to clarify to my students and studio what my class is all about.

        TRIBAL FUSION BELLY DANCE
        By Heather Stants
        Edited by Tom Rehor

        Tribal fusion belly dance is a modern style of belly dance that blends classic Raqs Sharqi, the American Tribal Style (ATS) of troupes such as San Francisco’s FatChanceBellyDance and other dance forms such as classical Indian dance, Flamenco, hip hop, and club dancing which would normally not appear in the ATS or Raqs Sharqi dance vocabulary. Tribal fusion dancers are noted for their strength, poise, precision, and isolations as well as their use of music that often combines Western electronica and traditional Middle Eastern, North African, and South Asian instruments. Tribal fusion is also unique in that its costuming combines indigenous tribal textiles from the Middle East and South Asia with modern and Western elements. Unlike ATS, which by definition must be performed by a group of dancers, tribal fusion can be performed in a group or by a soloist.

        Tribal Fusion is a living, evolving, dynamic form and in order to understand its innovative direction and future, once must explore its roots. In the late 1980s and early 1990s the American Belly Dance world was struck by the other worldly beauty and power of a new form of dance emerging from a community of visionary artists in the San Francisco Bay Area. Carolena Nericcio and her company, Fat Chance Belly Dance, have begun a transformation in American Belly Dance with their creation of American Tribal Style (ATS). This form focuses on the company dancing as a unit. Most often in an improvisational format of leaders and followers all attuned to the same core movements, cues and combinations. The movement and transitional terminology as well as the costuming is an eclectic blend of influences from the many cultures throughout North Africa, India, Spain and the Middle east. The ATS costume usually consists of layers of pantaloons, skirts, belts, and cholis made of antique textiles and tribal jewelry. The heavy costumes add to the earthiness of the movement style.

        The beauty of ATS has spread to dancers nationally and internationally and, like any evolving art form, as it reaches new artist it takes on their characteristics and influences. The latest variant of the “tribal” dance is given the title “TRIBAL FUSION”. A new generation of dancers has discovered ATS and stamped it with their experience and imagination creating a new dance form altogether in its own standing.

        ‘TRIBAL FUSION” has become a catch-all umbrella term or label for the various representations of this evolving style of creative expression and self-discovery. Tribal Fusion music choices themselves range from authentic tribal recordings to modern DJ mixed tracks. The costumes may be compromised of layers of authentic textiles and tribal jewelry, scaled down sleek club wear or any integration of the very ancient and the very new. The movement and transitions vocabulary may incorporate elements of ATS, modern dance, hip-hop, goth and industrial club expressions as well as the many diverse native dances of the world. The performances can be improvisational, tightly choreographed or a seamless synthesis of the two. Because Tribal Fusion is in it infancy as an art form, its rules are not yet firmly established. As it continues to evolve, its relation to ATS grows ever more complex and controversial.

        There have been many talented performers who have been making their mark in the world of Tribal Fusion. Belly Dance over the past decade. The artist commonly recognized as the pioneer of this new fusion style is Jill parker, an original member of Fat Chance Belly Dance. In the late 1990s Jill Parker, and her dance company, Ultra Gypsy, began to scale down the tribal costume, expand the movement vocabulary, work alongside club DJs, expand the theatrical themes and work from dramatic and mythic archetypes in their performances. This had a significant impact on tribal dancers and opened the floodgates of Tribal Fusion Innovation.

        In early 2000 Urban Tribal Dance Company was born in San Diego, Ca under the direction of Heather Stants, and has since popularized an innovative style inspired by hip-hop, modern and interpretive dance, emphasizing flexibility and athleticism with a more streamlined costume to highlight and accent the unique movements. Two of Urban Tribal’s original members have also made major contributions to Tribal Fusion costuming and stylized fashion. Mardi Love set the trend with her tribal inspired soft yarn belts and cowry shell hair adornments and Melodia Medley created a line of dance pants that have become the standard for the Tribal Fusion community. Another artist to make significant contribution to the evolution of Tribal Fusion is Rachel Brice, widely recognized as the first Tribal Fusion soloist. Her approach to isolations and yoga infused dance training has crossed stylistic boundaries and expanded the number of Tribal Fusion enthusiasts worldwide. Many artists continue to create and expand upon this style, pushing the boundaries of Belly dance with their theatricality, musical choice, costuming and venue selection. Tribal Fusion continues to be in a state of evolution and innovation. The innovative voices carving out the path of Tribal Fusion have hit on a artistic expression that borrows from the most ancient of cultures and takes them into the most dynamic of futures.

        Tribal Fusion is a new art form with as many interpretations as there are artists performing. Festivals and events dedicated to ATS, Tribal Fusion and other related dance have sprung up all over the United States. The Tribal belly dance community has embraced fusion exploration. It could be many more years of pushing boundaries before Tribal Fusion settles into a definitive style, although for now it remains a testament to the enduring qualities of community, creativity and self-expression within the world of belly dance.
        (from the new Evolution, Tribal Fusion Performances DVD)
        • Re: Defining the Style

          Wed, April 26, 2006 - 10:22 AM
          Wow! Eloquently put!
          • Re: Defining the Style

            Wed, April 26, 2006 - 11:42 AM
            Yeah I was really impressed with Heather's article. Kudos to her.

            I have been calling the pop-lock stuff Alternative Bellydance or Alternative Tribal. It doesn't so much look or act like a fusion of ATS any more, so the tribal moniker gets really confused in that case...
  • Re: Defining the Style

    Wed, April 26, 2006 - 1:09 PM
    Wow, I've never thought about it in such a complicated way...Should I be? The simplest way I break it dwon for my students is: If the move posesses a cue and is done in a group/troupe/tribe then it is "Tribal." If it is a solo peice or a peice that is completely choreographed to a specific song then it is "Tribal Fusion." But how can we be open to creatively express ourselves through this art form if we are forced to follow only the "uniform" ways about it? If that were the case then "Tribal Belly Dance" would have never came to be. Then "Belly Dance" or any dance for that matter, would only posess one style and there would be no room for it to grow. (Sorry for the spelling errors guys.)
    • Re: Defining the Style

      Wed, April 26, 2006 - 3:30 PM
      This is an argument I've made to my troupe. They're cabaret, and don't understand where I'm going with this whole tribal fusion thing. They maintain that it can't be considered bellydance unless it sticks to traditional bellydance moves. And ech time they bring that up, I ask them two questions:

      1) Does this mean that our cabaret routines that use umis are not bellydance since that is a Polynesian move?
      2) What is the percentage of 'bellydance' moves that I must put in a routine so that it can be considered 'bellydance?'

      Needless to say, I haven't gotten good answers to either question yet. :)
    • Re: Defining the Style

      Mon, May 1, 2006 - 9:54 AM
      Sheesh, It can be a bit confusing but when they ask, . ...I just say Tribal.
      And that is all it is. it is just (Tribal) style belly dance.

      what makes it different is having the ability to dance with other dancers that understand the combos you are cueing whether it be from FCBD or your local Tribal group, as long as the language is getting out there with its roots in FCBD it is Tribal Style, "Fusion" Combos are fused movements and/or style whether it be FCBD Indigo or Unmata, it is Tribal if it is shared within the Tribal community, it is Tribal if it is a known within and outside of your tribe, it is Tribal if it all begins with a Taxeem..hehehe..
      If you are teaching other Tribal dance groups your moves then you are just widening the Tribal Language.

      The fusion part? it is all fusion at it's core, this is where the defining is a bit silly, or just very silly... Actually the word Fusion is very trendy right now it is the new Extreeeme. Tribal is all fusion at its roots...If you don't know that then keep learning about Tribal style and start at the beginning again. The new fusion part is not the important part as much as the Tribal connection part is.
      It is the instant connection and support to another person or tribe that is so beautiful and different about Tribal style belly dance.

      I cannot tell you how sad it is to me to go to a festival and see other "Tribal" dancers just sit there and watch because they don't even know the simple Tribal moves.
      But hey, they look great in Melodia pants and can invent moves with their friends ...ummm soo what? that does not make it Tribal or fusion. In that case, it is just invention for the sake of being different and only for that sake. Kids do that all the time, invent things and exclude others from the info to be cool. but eventually it gets out done by another group of kids that not only invented new moves but called it a new name, it's a lame competition in a place we are not supposed to be compeating with eachother but supporting eachother as Tribes should.

      So this is why knowing FCBD and GC is so important because they are the universal language of Tribal style they are the only ones that have their combos on video for us all to know in order to dance together and invent more fused moves from there, and that is why we keep going back to them when this discussion floats back up... Until more groups get their Tribal combos out there on DVD we only have the FCBD and GC language to go by as a Tribal community, and whatever other groups want to share in their workshops to make the Tribal vocabulary even larger.

      The fusion soloist? well, we all are fusion soloists. No two dancers ever really move the same, and when it is not planned it is improv and when it is improv it is fused with all you have ever learned as a dancer, and when it is fused with all you have ever learned what does that make you, how do you dance when you are dancing in a night club?? now put on a Tribal costume (of your own fusion) ;) and WALLA!!! a fusion soloist is born. yeeeesss.... It is all fusion at its core, it is the Tribal aspect that sets this style of dance it apart from the others. it is the sharing and supporting and dancing together that will keep it alive.
      Keep it simple and just call it Tribal style, support the community it has created because of its common roots in ATS without that original connection to eachother, this dance from would be nothing more than invented campy skits, kids play....
  • Re: Defining the Style

    Wed, May 3, 2006 - 4:22 PM
    You stealing our Magazine article caption :D *nudge-wink*
    Big can of worms! Hmmm, agree with lots said, and it's late and I've had two bottles of wine(!) but hopefully still concisely, I'd say......you've mentioned that GC 'fuse' indian etc into their ATS. Well, the word 'fusion' is used in two contexts with tribal. ATS is itself a fusion of several styles from different cultures (indian, african MED etc). The definition of 'tribal' to me is the connection between the dancers, which you only get from having a basis of dancing improv....knowing/being able to read fellow dancers. Then others began pushing the definitions and concepts of the dance by choreographing with other styles added, which needed a new name....and was termed tribal fusion (the second context). It still has to have the same dancer-to-dancer awareness to keep the elements of tribal.
    Err....hope that makes sense tomorrow when I'm sober :D

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